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		<title>By: ATLBaller</title>
		<link>http://www.wendyparker.org/2010/12/now-that-espnw-is-up-and-running-what-is-it-exactly/#comment-3281</link>
		<dc:creator>ATLBaller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BRAVO on this fantastic article!  You&#039;ve hit it out of the park Ms Parker!

I think the bottom line is really the point.... ESPN didn&#039;t start ESPNW because they cared about women&#039;s sports.  They did a very exhaustive study on advertising to see if there was an &quot;advertising market&quot; for this kind of site. Yes it&#039;s a business, I understand, but IT wasn&#039;t started because it was the right thing to do or because someone in Bristol was so passionate about it that they demanded the site... it was started because it will generate revenue.  It&#039;s the same thing Nike does with their basketball shoes... they don&#039;t make a product for women... they just &quot;shrink it and pink it&quot;.... meaning they take their men&#039;s product and make it more appealing to women instead of designing something that actually meets the needs of women.  

I don&#039;t want to insult the people involved with the site.  They are very passionate women/athletes/role models and I am thrilled they are being given a forum to speak.   The question that really needs to be addressed is... Will ESPN W actually cover women&#039;s sports?  Right now there is a great group of bloggers and athletes talking about womens sports... but no actual reporting and coverage is happening.  This is where they could really make a difference. When ESPNW starts sending reporters to games... that&#039;s when I&#039;ll be a believer in the site.  Right now it&#039;s just content sharing with ESPN.com (which quite frankly has more women&#039;s sports coverage than the W).  Press row is nearly empty at the majority of women&#039;s sporting events.... That&#039;s what has to change!  

The day ESPN W launched, Texas A&amp;M coach Gary Blair had these comments after 61-58 his loss to Duke..(a thrilling game which went down to the wire!)
&quot;This was as good of a ball game as Connecticut and Baylor played and when you got four teams like ourselves that are willing to risk and play each other on home and homes, that&#039;s what you have in women&#039;s basketball and we need more of this. This was a great television audience so hopefully they weren&#039;t watching New England and the Jets, they were sitting and watching this game.&quot;      

This is what ESPNW Should have led with the day they launched... Two top ranked women&#039;s teams playing in prime time!  They could have done something original instead it was more of the same.  An opportunity missed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BRAVO on this fantastic article!  You&#8217;ve hit it out of the park Ms Parker!</p>
<p>I think the bottom line is really the point&#8230;. ESPN didn&#8217;t start ESPNW because they cared about women&#8217;s sports.  They did a very exhaustive study on advertising to see if there was an &#8220;advertising market&#8221; for this kind of site. Yes it&#8217;s a business, I understand, but IT wasn&#8217;t started because it was the right thing to do or because someone in Bristol was so passionate about it that they demanded the site&#8230; it was started because it will generate revenue.  It&#8217;s the same thing Nike does with their basketball shoes&#8230; they don&#8217;t make a product for women&#8230; they just &#8220;shrink it and pink it&#8221;&#8230;. meaning they take their men&#8217;s product and make it more appealing to women instead of designing something that actually meets the needs of women.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to insult the people involved with the site.  They are very passionate women/athletes/role models and I am thrilled they are being given a forum to speak.   The question that really needs to be addressed is&#8230; Will ESPN W actually cover women&#8217;s sports?  Right now there is a great group of bloggers and athletes talking about womens sports&#8230; but no actual reporting and coverage is happening.  This is where they could really make a difference. When ESPNW starts sending reporters to games&#8230; that&#8217;s when I&#8217;ll be a believer in the site.  Right now it&#8217;s just content sharing with ESPN.com (which quite frankly has more women&#8217;s sports coverage than the W).  Press row is nearly empty at the majority of women&#8217;s sporting events&#8230;. That&#8217;s what has to change!  </p>
<p>The day ESPN W launched, Texas A&amp;M coach Gary Blair had these comments after 61-58 his loss to Duke..(a thrilling game which went down to the wire!)<br />
&#8220;This was as good of a ball game as Connecticut and Baylor played and when you got four teams like ourselves that are willing to risk and play each other on home and homes, that&#8217;s what you have in women&#8217;s basketball and we need more of this. This was a great television audience so hopefully they weren&#8217;t watching New England and the Jets, they were sitting and watching this game.&#8221;      </p>
<p>This is what ESPNW Should have led with the day they launched&#8230; Two top ranked women&#8217;s teams playing in prime time!  They could have done something original instead it was more of the same.  An opportunity missed!</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy Parker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2010 23:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do appreciate your thoughtful reply and especially the need for an iconic &quot;voice&quot; for women&#039;s sports. 

I think some of the women you mentioned -- and there are others -- are gradually emerging toward the possibility of that. You echoed what I&#039;ve always thought about Doris Burke. While I&#039;m glad ESPN finally realized her talent -- and it took years for her to get into the analyst&#039;s chair at the Women&#039;s Final Four because she didn&#039;t have that &quot;All-American&quot; tag they&#039;ve always liked -- selfishly I wish she were doing more women&#039;s/WNBA games. It&#039;s nothing against anyone else, but she&#039;s just that good. 

For the sheer volume and range of women&#039;s basketball games she calls, it&#039;s hard to top Debbie Antonelli, who&#039;s mostly on FSN and CBS College Sports and doesn&#039;t have the name recognition she deserves because her only ESPN work is during the NCAA tournament.

As for other women&#039;s sports, it&#039;s going to require having more games aired for it to catch up with the talent working in basketball, but it&#039;s encouraging, especially college softball. Mowins is really establishing herself there, among other sports, opportunities enabled by her full-fledged move to ESPN. 

I&#039;ve maintained for a while now that we&#039;re in the early phase of what I call women&#039; sports 3.0 -- away from activism and toward a period in which business and marketing realities will take precedence. Media transformation is also part of that, and what you&#039;ve addressed on the ESPN/TV side is sharp and necessary to keep in mind. 

I think these are as exciting and fun times to follow and observe women&#039;s sports as they are to compete directly in them.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do appreciate your thoughtful reply and especially the need for an iconic &#8220;voice&#8221; for women&#8217;s sports. </p>
<p>I think some of the women you mentioned &#8212; and there are others &#8212; are gradually emerging toward the possibility of that. You echoed what I&#8217;ve always thought about Doris Burke. While I&#8217;m glad ESPN finally realized her talent &#8212; and it took years for her to get into the analyst&#8217;s chair at the Women&#8217;s Final Four because she didn&#8217;t have that &#8220;All-American&#8221; tag they&#8217;ve always liked &#8212; selfishly I wish she were doing more women&#8217;s/WNBA games. It&#8217;s nothing against anyone else, but she&#8217;s just that good. </p>
<p>For the sheer volume and range of women&#8217;s basketball games she calls, it&#8217;s hard to top Debbie Antonelli, who&#8217;s mostly on FSN and CBS College Sports and doesn&#8217;t have the name recognition she deserves because her only ESPN work is during the NCAA tournament.</p>
<p>As for other women&#8217;s sports, it&#8217;s going to require having more games aired for it to catch up with the talent working in basketball, but it&#8217;s encouraging, especially college softball. Mowins is really establishing herself there, among other sports, opportunities enabled by her full-fledged move to ESPN. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve maintained for a while now that we&#8217;re in the early phase of what I call women&#8217; sports 3.0 &#8212; away from activism and toward a period in which business and marketing realities will take precedence. Media transformation is also part of that, and what you&#8217;ve addressed on the ESPN/TV side is sharp and necessary to keep in mind. </p>
<p>I think these are as exciting and fun times to follow and observe women&#8217;s sports as they are to compete directly in them.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Zemek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Zemek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2010 01:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wendy,

Very compelling and, I think, accurate thoughts.

I think the somewhat transformative figure with a potential to become even more of a gateway personality in this regard is Doris Burke, who glides fairly seamlessly between women&#039;s and men&#039;s basketball, college AND pro, and delivers analysis that plenty of men, myself included, respect - simply because it&#039;s good analysis, not for any reasons pertaining to gender itself.

I wonder what Ms. Burke thinks and feels about these issues, and I wonder if anyone at ESPN - including and especially ombudsman Don Ohlmeyer, someone who knows a thing or 257 about production values and creating a worthy entertainment package - has raised the points you and Val Ackerman make here.

On a personal note, one of the things that draws me back to the NFL - though it&#039;s hardly my favorite sport (I boycotted any TV consumption of the sport for one year and felt that was sufficient personal sacrifice; completely shutting it off feels a little empty on fall afternoons) - is the central presence it has established within the fabric of American life. Being played on Sunday is part of it, but the other part is that it is television-friendly and was nurtured by great broadcast voices: Gowdy, Scott, Summerall, Madden, Enberg, Olsen, Cosell, and the late Don Meredith.

One of the things women&#039;s sports lacks - not owing to anything inherent, but to its late evolution within American culture - is and has been the presence of that cherished broadcast voice which makes the sport a part of your life, not just something nice to watch or listen to in a crowded sports marketplace. 

Can women&#039;s sports find a Red Barber or Mel Allen or Vin Scully - not a female one, but just a signature voice to attach itself to?

Would ESPN - which does that NBA/college basketball crossover night with its announce crews once a year - be willing to put the NBA crew on a women&#039;s game and have Pam Ward and Rebecca Lobo do an NBA game? Are broadcast outlets willing to mix and match talent, having Dan Shulman and Jay Bilas call the Women&#039;s Final Four (not Bob Knight, of course; a sh--- storm would ensue) and have Beth Mowins do a Big East Tournament afternoon quarterfinal session?

Broadcasting quality, broadcasting identity, and broadcasting availability (not so much games being covered, but games receiving prime time slots with minimal competition to the fullest extent possible) keep coming back to me as issues closely related to the market-based improvement of women&#039;s sports for an American sporting appetite.

Thanks, and keep up the fantastic (and thought-provoking) work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wendy,</p>
<p>Very compelling and, I think, accurate thoughts.</p>
<p>I think the somewhat transformative figure with a potential to become even more of a gateway personality in this regard is Doris Burke, who glides fairly seamlessly between women&#8217;s and men&#8217;s basketball, college AND pro, and delivers analysis that plenty of men, myself included, respect &#8211; simply because it&#8217;s good analysis, not for any reasons pertaining to gender itself.</p>
<p>I wonder what Ms. Burke thinks and feels about these issues, and I wonder if anyone at ESPN &#8211; including and especially ombudsman Don Ohlmeyer, someone who knows a thing or 257 about production values and creating a worthy entertainment package &#8211; has raised the points you and Val Ackerman make here.</p>
<p>On a personal note, one of the things that draws me back to the NFL &#8211; though it&#8217;s hardly my favorite sport (I boycotted any TV consumption of the sport for one year and felt that was sufficient personal sacrifice; completely shutting it off feels a little empty on fall afternoons) &#8211; is the central presence it has established within the fabric of American life. Being played on Sunday is part of it, but the other part is that it is television-friendly and was nurtured by great broadcast voices: Gowdy, Scott, Summerall, Madden, Enberg, Olsen, Cosell, and the late Don Meredith.</p>
<p>One of the things women&#8217;s sports lacks &#8211; not owing to anything inherent, but to its late evolution within American culture &#8211; is and has been the presence of that cherished broadcast voice which makes the sport a part of your life, not just something nice to watch or listen to in a crowded sports marketplace. </p>
<p>Can women&#8217;s sports find a Red Barber or Mel Allen or Vin Scully &#8211; not a female one, but just a signature voice to attach itself to?</p>
<p>Would ESPN &#8211; which does that NBA/college basketball crossover night with its announce crews once a year &#8211; be willing to put the NBA crew on a women&#8217;s game and have Pam Ward and Rebecca Lobo do an NBA game? Are broadcast outlets willing to mix and match talent, having Dan Shulman and Jay Bilas call the Women&#8217;s Final Four (not Bob Knight, of course; a sh&#8212; storm would ensue) and have Beth Mowins do a Big East Tournament afternoon quarterfinal session?</p>
<p>Broadcasting quality, broadcasting identity, and broadcasting availability (not so much games being covered, but games receiving prime time slots with minimal competition to the fullest extent possible) keep coming back to me as issues closely related to the market-based improvement of women&#8217;s sports for an American sporting appetite.</p>
<p>Thanks, and keep up the fantastic (and thought-provoking) work!</p>
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