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		<title>Comment on Who decides what is a sport? by Bern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 08:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I continue to be amazed at how disingenuous legal hacks like Chaudry and Hogshead-Makar are capable of being.  Like most attorneys they can argue any side of an argument at any time depending upon their prejudice, mood or objective.  

Their general approach has historically been that athletic opportunities equip girls and women to compete in the &quot;real world&quot; against dudes who have always had these opportunities.  That said whenever new women&#039;s sports surface that don&#039;t fit their true social engineering objectives their true colors come out.  It&#039;s never been about letting girls compete in things they want to compete in like cheerleading or flag football, it&#039;s about their agenda, which at base has little to do with sports.

There is now plenty of proof out there that these women and the organizations that support their philosophies are purely the &quot;sports subsidiaries&quot; of their larger social movements.  The unfortunate truth is that political correctness prevents a discussion of what actually drives these people.  

The only thing we know for sure is that now that the battle has moved into the courtrooms we are assured that positions will continue to become more polarized and significant difficulties lie ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I continue to be amazed at how disingenuous legal hacks like Chaudry and Hogshead-Makar are capable of being.  Like most attorneys they can argue any side of an argument at any time depending upon their prejudice, mood or objective.  </p>
<p>Their general approach has historically been that athletic opportunities equip girls and women to compete in the &#8220;real world&#8221; against dudes who have always had these opportunities.  That said whenever new women&#8217;s sports surface that don&#8217;t fit their true social engineering objectives their true colors come out.  It&#8217;s never been about letting girls compete in things they want to compete in like cheerleading or flag football, it&#8217;s about their agenda, which at base has little to do with sports.</p>
<p>There is now plenty of proof out there that these women and the organizations that support their philosophies are purely the &#8220;sports subsidiaries&#8221; of their larger social movements.  The unfortunate truth is that political correctness prevents a discussion of what actually drives these people.  </p>
<p>The only thing we know for sure is that now that the battle has moved into the courtrooms we are assured that positions will continue to become more polarized and significant difficulties lie ahead.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A truly warped way of seeing women athletes by Live Free Sex Chat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Live Free Sex Chat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 06:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not saying everyone in the world born in 96-99 are complete idiots. I&#039;m just saying in my small town at my high school we have dirty, rude, and unnessecary under class men. No need to hate. And we can say we weren&#039;t like that. I can Truely say I haven&#039;t acted like my under class men since I was in elementary school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not saying everyone in the world born in 96-99 are complete idiots. I&#8217;m just saying in my small town at my high school we have dirty, rude, and unnessecary under class men. No need to hate. And we can say we weren&#8217;t like that. I can Truely say I haven&#8217;t acted like my under class men since I was in elementary school.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who decides what is a sport? by James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 16:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flag football, Ultimate frisbee, CrossFit, and a few other activities that some might not consider &quot;sports&quot; are better for kids than some things that are (bowling, baseball, and softball for instance) because they make kids MOVE more.

If people are worried about obesity, have kids move more and eat fewer carbs.

Flag football gets kids moving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flag football, Ultimate frisbee, CrossFit, and a few other activities that some might not consider &#8220;sports&#8221; are better for kids than some things that are (bowling, baseball, and softball for instance) because they make kids MOVE more.</p>
<p>If people are worried about obesity, have kids move more and eat fewer carbs.</p>
<p>Flag football gets kids moving.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pat Summitt and the power of personality by Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 18:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think D1WCBB is on the road to being a victim of it&#039;s own success just like every other successful sport. I think Pat represented the purity, intensity and success of the game at it&#039;s highest level. That is what so many of us loved. As long as she stood courtside we could not forget that. Her presence carried it. The challenge is definately there as far as direction of the women&#039;s game.  Once big money/notoriety gets introduced into a picture there is an inescapable segment of greed and coldness that goes with it. It is big business now. D1 WCBB is fast losing the &#039;mom and pop&quot; store feel to the &#039;big time&#039;. Universities need the money to compete. Players want to be showcased. Media scrutiny and attention is constant.  Coaches have enormous pressure. Fans demand success and are little tolerant of growing pains. Right now I am still encouraged by the number of coaches who see themselves as teachers. They all will need our suport to take up the torch Pat carried for so many years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think D1WCBB is on the road to being a victim of it&#8217;s own success just like every other successful sport. I think Pat represented the purity, intensity and success of the game at it&#8217;s highest level. That is what so many of us loved. As long as she stood courtside we could not forget that. Her presence carried it. The challenge is definately there as far as direction of the women&#8217;s game.  Once big money/notoriety gets introduced into a picture there is an inescapable segment of greed and coldness that goes with it. It is big business now. D1 WCBB is fast losing the &#8216;mom and pop&#8221; store feel to the &#8216;big time&#8217;. Universities need the money to compete. Players want to be showcased. Media scrutiny and attention is constant.  Coaches have enormous pressure. Fans demand success and are little tolerant of growing pains. Right now I am still encouraged by the number of coaches who see themselves as teachers. They all will need our suport to take up the torch Pat carried for so many years.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pat Summitt and the power of personality by Cheryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 15:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charli Turner Thorne talks at length about work-life balance and the need to take a breather even in the midst of the grind of being an DI WBB coach:
http://wp.me/pwd9L-4TG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charli Turner Thorne talks at length about work-life balance and the need to take a breather even in the midst of the grind of being an DI WBB coach:<br />
<a href="http://wp.me/pwd9L-4TG" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/wp.me/pwd9L-4TG?referer=');">http://wp.me/pwd9L-4TG</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Pat Summitt and the power of personality by Bern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 15:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Beth Bass quote is spot on.  I don&#039;t think that being a top performing coach is much different than being a top performer in other vocations.  To be among the very best at anything it takes an almost fanatical dedication.  Most people, men or women, really aren&#039;t up to the challenge, either personally or professionally.

The problem with college sports is that many &quot;average&quot; coaching performers are being paid &quot;exceptional&quot; salaries due to the competitive nature of the coaching market.

Seems a lot like business hiring to me.  There are exceptional performers out there, but they are rare and difficult to parse out and hire.  When properly identified and placed their performance is frequently incrementally better than the average performers.  The secret of course is to accurately identify the exceptional skill sets and place them at a cost that the organization can benefit from, both from a monetary and a performance standpoint.  It&#039;s hard to do.

In college sports it is a particular problem because there doesn&#039;t seem to be an offset to the expense of hiring a supposedly qualified, expensive coach.  In business you could terminate that person if he or she failed to perform as expected or promised.  In college sports there are contracts involved and because there is no real &quot;bottom line&quot; like there is in business no one is relating revenue to expenses in a rational way.  Hence our current reality.

I think we can expect this to get worse before it gets better.  These average coaches making $500K +/- just look at athletes as being inventory.  They don&#039;t seem to feel any responsibility for their players physical health when they are playing or after they leave unless that health somehow impacts their ability to continue to receive their paychecks.  Concussions, ACL&#039;s, whatever, it&#039;s just &quot;collateral damage&quot; to a given coach&#039;s career.  

In any case, appreciate the links.  You consistently bring information to the table that no one else in women&#039;s sports does.  Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Beth Bass quote is spot on.  I don&#8217;t think that being a top performing coach is much different than being a top performer in other vocations.  To be among the very best at anything it takes an almost fanatical dedication.  Most people, men or women, really aren&#8217;t up to the challenge, either personally or professionally.</p>
<p>The problem with college sports is that many &#8220;average&#8221; coaching performers are being paid &#8220;exceptional&#8221; salaries due to the competitive nature of the coaching market.</p>
<p>Seems a lot like business hiring to me.  There are exceptional performers out there, but they are rare and difficult to parse out and hire.  When properly identified and placed their performance is frequently incrementally better than the average performers.  The secret of course is to accurately identify the exceptional skill sets and place them at a cost that the organization can benefit from, both from a monetary and a performance standpoint.  It&#8217;s hard to do.</p>
<p>In college sports it is a particular problem because there doesn&#8217;t seem to be an offset to the expense of hiring a supposedly qualified, expensive coach.  In business you could terminate that person if he or she failed to perform as expected or promised.  In college sports there are contracts involved and because there is no real &#8220;bottom line&#8221; like there is in business no one is relating revenue to expenses in a rational way.  Hence our current reality.</p>
<p>I think we can expect this to get worse before it gets better.  These average coaches making $500K +/- just look at athletes as being inventory.  They don&#8217;t seem to feel any responsibility for their players physical health when they are playing or after they leave unless that health somehow impacts their ability to continue to receive their paychecks.  Concussions, ACL&#8217;s, whatever, it&#8217;s just &#8220;collateral damage&#8221; to a given coach&#8217;s career.  </p>
<p>In any case, appreciate the links.  You consistently bring information to the table that no one else in women&#8217;s sports does.  Thanks</p>
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		<title>Comment on A clarion call for Title IX reform by Bern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 07:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good take, as usual.  Problem is that you&#039;re a voice crying in the wilderness on Title IX.  Seems to me that the women&#039;s sports intelligentsia continues to feel that their progress over the past forty years just means they should push that much harder for more of the same.   I assume you read the ESPNW pieces and blog comments on Title IX.  The true believers aren&#039;t going anywhere.  If anything they&#039;re flipping the bird to everyone that doesn&#039;t agree them, including you by name.

I also agree that the Independent Women&#039;s Forum is way over on the Right, but they are generally accurate in their piece.  The issue as I see it is the IWF &#039;s &quot;core problem&quot; of Men and Women not being the same flies directly in the face of the bedrock gender feminist theory of the social construction of sexuality which of course most of those in charge of women&#039;s sports administration and compliance are fully invested in.

So it looks to me the only way to approach it is full speed &amp; head on.  They would rather melt everything down than change.  Given the tone and frequency of the less than positive comments on the ESPNW blog relative to Title IX it seems we are probably seeing some momentum being built on the side of reasonableness.  

We&#039;ll see how it goes.  I&#039;m thinking that more truth needs to be told.  Thanks for getting the ball rolling.  We&#039;ll be working on getting more information out there in the near future.

You should think about putting your views in book form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good take, as usual.  Problem is that you&#8217;re a voice crying in the wilderness on Title IX.  Seems to me that the women&#8217;s sports intelligentsia continues to feel that their progress over the past forty years just means they should push that much harder for more of the same.   I assume you read the ESPNW pieces and blog comments on Title IX.  The true believers aren&#8217;t going anywhere.  If anything they&#8217;re flipping the bird to everyone that doesn&#8217;t agree them, including you by name.</p>
<p>I also agree that the Independent Women&#8217;s Forum is way over on the Right, but they are generally accurate in their piece.  The issue as I see it is the IWF &#8217;s &#8220;core problem&#8221; of Men and Women not being the same flies directly in the face of the bedrock gender feminist theory of the social construction of sexuality which of course most of those in charge of women&#8217;s sports administration and compliance are fully invested in.</p>
<p>So it looks to me the only way to approach it is full speed &amp; head on.  They would rather melt everything down than change.  Given the tone and frequency of the less than positive comments on the ESPNW blog relative to Title IX it seems we are probably seeing some momentum being built on the side of reasonableness.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;ll see how it goes.  I&#8217;m thinking that more truth needs to be told.  Thanks for getting the ball rolling.  We&#8217;ll be working on getting more information out there in the near future.</p>
<p>You should think about putting your views in book form.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Southern swagger of Kim Mulkey by USCGAMECOCKBOY</title>
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		<dc:creator>USCGAMECOCKBOY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 18:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great article. i love it!! what a gr8 inside to coach as a person. 


GOOO USC FIGHTING GAMECOCKS!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great article. i love it!! what a gr8 inside to coach as a person. </p>
<p>GOOO USC FIGHTING GAMECOCKS!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gender and coaching women&#8217;s basketball, Part II by Bern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 15:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Kacey - I played college roundball on scholarship and I spent my career in the corporate world.  I can tell you confidently that if anything HR Departments in the major corporations bend over backwards to hire and promote any applicant from a protected class if they possibly can.  They track it, push it and manage to it.  I lived it.  Anyone that tells you differently is not telling the truth.  For the record I&#039;m talking about the finance arms of General Motors, Toyota, Nissan and Mitsubishi where I was manager level or higher during my career.  I promoted lots of qualified women to great jobs.  I also played an active role in firing those that thought they could get by on their gender and not brains, talent and hard work. 

Here is a very interesting piece on the coaching thing.  His point being, real world experience matters, in coaching and everything else.  

http://www.swishappeal.com/2011/4/21/2125267/ncaa-womens-basketball-coaching-why-developing-expertise-at-mid

Funny thing is he published this in 2011, long before Fagan&#039;s recent gendered diatribe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Kacey &#8211; I played college roundball on scholarship and I spent my career in the corporate world.  I can tell you confidently that if anything HR Departments in the major corporations bend over backwards to hire and promote any applicant from a protected class if they possibly can.  They track it, push it and manage to it.  I lived it.  Anyone that tells you differently is not telling the truth.  For the record I&#8217;m talking about the finance arms of General Motors, Toyota, Nissan and Mitsubishi where I was manager level or higher during my career.  I promoted lots of qualified women to great jobs.  I also played an active role in firing those that thought they could get by on their gender and not brains, talent and hard work. </p>
<p>Here is a very interesting piece on the coaching thing.  His point being, real world experience matters, in coaching and everything else.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.swishappeal.com/2011/4/21/2125267/ncaa-womens-basketball-coaching-why-developing-expertise-at-mid" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.swishappeal.com/2011/4/21/2125267/ncaa-womens-basketball-coaching-why-developing-expertise-at-mid?referer=');">http://www.swishappeal.com/2011/4/21/2125267/ncaa-womens-basketball-coaching-why-developing-expertise-at-mid</a></p>
<p>Funny thing is he published this in 2011, long before Fagan&#8217;s recent gendered diatribe.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gender and coaching women&#8217;s basketball, Part II by Wendy Parker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 21:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love to see your research Kacey. As for Brian Agler, he&#039;s never gotten a second chance to coach in the college game. That should have been clarified in the story. The same goes for Pokey Chatman, who&#039;s in the WNBA with very little scrutiny about what she left behind at LSU. I know of a few male coaches who crashed out at the college level and never got a second chance either. 

This isn&#039;t e a gender-specific issue, but certain people with an agenda -- the careers of women coaches -- are always going to exaggerate these things. &quot;The Glass Wall&quot; is built on a faulty premise. Discrimination is never going to go away completely, but to suggest things are as bad as they were years ago is fundamentally wrong and dishonest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love to see your research Kacey. As for Brian Agler, he&#8217;s never gotten a second chance to coach in the college game. That should have been clarified in the story. The same goes for Pokey Chatman, who&#8217;s in the WNBA with very little scrutiny about what she left behind at LSU. I know of a few male coaches who crashed out at the college level and never got a second chance either. </p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t e a gender-specific issue, but certain people with an agenda &#8212; the careers of women coaches &#8212; are always going to exaggerate these things. &#8220;The Glass Wall&#8221; is built on a faulty premise. Discrimination is never going to go away completely, but to suggest things are as bad as they were years ago is fundamentally wrong and dishonest.</p>
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